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		<title>Comment on Should All Religions Be Taught In Schools? by positivelyinclined</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 18:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time is a concern that most people have expressed even elsewhere where this link has been shared and with persons speaking to me directly. If you refer to my earlier comment to Bruce, I suggested that the religion need not be taught in depth. As a matter of fact, it&#039;s merely the history and ideological principles that would be taught then the interpretations and variations left for debate (literally), essays etc. Of everyone that mentioned &quot;time&quot; no one remarked on the fact that the education system needs overhauling anyway and much of the curriculum could be removed and replaced. Schools teach students for the sole benefit of the student&#039;s future success. Why do we know so little about our bodies, about language, about what to consume, how to exercise, how to raise a family and the importance of the things that keep us alive while subjects like biology and family life are taught. The first deals with the body (scientifically but not relatable), the latter about &quot;family life&quot; but we fail so miserably at or relationships and at raising our children, not because we are not intelligent, rather on account of the focus of these subjects (and other external factors of course).

My suggestion would be to incorporate it into other subject areas, be it history, literature and language. Rather than writing about political debates the debates could be about religion. Persuasive compositions could be about why the student believes this religion or that and they would be graded on the content not the perceived truth. Most people agree that religion is important so irrespective of the time to implement such programs and the time it will take in the curriculum, it&#039;s introduction is worth considering.

The religious institutions will be the resource to which the students could refer for additional information and I do not see why these institutions would have a problem with this (it may be the most young people they see or the most they see so intrigued). As for parents and their possible disapproval of students researching another religion for school, I pose the question, &quot;Do they rather their children go through the motions of religion with disbelief in what they practice or do they prefer for them to be well informed and to choose their religion thereafter as their parents have?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time is a concern that most people have expressed even elsewhere where this link has been shared and with persons speaking to me directly. If you refer to my earlier comment to Bruce, I suggested that the religion need not be taught in depth. As a matter of fact, it&#8217;s merely the history and ideological principles that would be taught then the interpretations and variations left for debate (literally), essays etc. Of everyone that mentioned &#8220;time&#8221; no one remarked on the fact that the education system needs overhauling anyway and much of the curriculum could be removed and replaced. Schools teach students for the sole benefit of the student&#8217;s future success. Why do we know so little about our bodies, about language, about what to consume, how to exercise, how to raise a family and the importance of the things that keep us alive while subjects like biology and family life are taught. The first deals with the body (scientifically but not relatable), the latter about &#8220;family life&#8221; but we fail so miserably at or relationships and at raising our children, not because we are not intelligent, rather on account of the focus of these subjects (and other external factors of course).</p>
<p>My suggestion would be to incorporate it into other subject areas, be it history, literature and language. Rather than writing about political debates the debates could be about religion. Persuasive compositions could be about why the student believes this religion or that and they would be graded on the content not the perceived truth. Most people agree that religion is important so irrespective of the time to implement such programs and the time it will take in the curriculum, it&#8217;s introduction is worth considering.</p>
<p>The religious institutions will be the resource to which the students could refer for additional information and I do not see why these institutions would have a problem with this (it may be the most young people they see or the most they see so intrigued). As for parents and their possible disapproval of students researching another religion for school, I pose the question, &#8220;Do they rather their children go through the motions of religion with disbelief in what they practice or do they prefer for them to be well informed and to choose their religion thereafter as their parents have?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should All Religions Be Taught In Schools? by positivelyinclined</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 18:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your comment poses a whole other topic for discussion and an interesting one at that. While I take time to establish for myself my position, I will say that it will first take an education of the parents and population before you allow the students to observe their religion. Children bully other children enough for their minor differences never mind the child that has to be fully clothed from head to toe or the child that gets sick and is bullied because the bully&#039;s parents heard that that child was opted out of taking a vaccination (despite the fact that we&#039;ve lived fine without it for many years). I&#039;ll address the rest in another comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comment poses a whole other topic for discussion and an interesting one at that. While I take time to establish for myself my position, I will say that it will first take an education of the parents and population before you allow the students to observe their religion. Children bully other children enough for their minor differences never mind the child that has to be fully clothed from head to toe or the child that gets sick and is bullied because the bully&#8217;s parents heard that that child was opted out of taking a vaccination (despite the fact that we&#8217;ve lived fine without it for many years). I&#8217;ll address the rest in another comment.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should All Religions Be Taught In Schools? by Jihan</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 02:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PI, there is a big difference in observing and teaching. Should schools observe i.e. allow students to honour and recognise the tenets of their religion? I think yes, so let them choose not to take vaccination or wear dreads or observe a holiday provided it does not affectthe other students negatively. But should all religions be TAUGHT? Absolutely not.

First off, by the time we decide which religions to teach, the semester done and if we want to really make an impact, the particular religion would have to be taught in depth. A religion per day would not even be enough and then when you finish that venture, the children graduate versed in religion and can&#039;t spell and add. Where will schools find time to teach all religions and if the schools do that, pray tell what would be the role of the religious institutions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PI, there is a big difference in observing and teaching. Should schools observe i.e. allow students to honour and recognise the tenets of their religion? I think yes, so let them choose not to take vaccination or wear dreads or observe a holiday provided it does not affectthe other students negatively. But should all religions be TAUGHT? Absolutely not.</p>
<p>First off, by the time we decide which religions to teach, the semester done and if we want to really make an impact, the particular religion would have to be taught in depth. A religion per day would not even be enough and then when you finish that venture, the children graduate versed in religion and can&#8217;t spell and add. Where will schools find time to teach all religions and if the schools do that, pray tell what would be the role of the religious institutions?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should All Religions Be Taught In Schools? by positivelyinclined</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 19:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Depth, Inclusiveness and accuracy are three of the biggest challenges and you would note that the title is in a question form, not a declaration, so I too haven&#039;t figured it all out.
Depth is not necessarily a prime focus, depth perhaps can be left to the students to research and a theory in support of, against, or separate to those established could be presented in some form (thesis, presentation, etc.). Much like opinion pieces, the student&#039;s position should be judged on content and comprehensiveness rather than what is accepted to be truth.

Inclusiveness, I will take to mean for instance, the variation of religions wherein any one religion has their own differing interpretations. This is again the responsibility of the student to establish theirs and their grades would be on merit of their content. The varied belief systems for example Sunday verses Saturday worshipers of the same religion could be addressed in debate form. Determining all variations that exists will have to be subjective but I think there is room in the world for being subjective - to a degree.

Accuracy can be determined by involving as many &quot;stakeholders&quot; so to speak, ministers of the religions, consulting the general population etc. The task would be huge but the reward would be worth it as we build a more perceptive, faithful and tolerant nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depth, Inclusiveness and accuracy are three of the biggest challenges and you would note that the title is in a question form, not a declaration, so I too haven&#8217;t figured it all out.<br />
Depth is not necessarily a prime focus, depth perhaps can be left to the students to research and a theory in support of, against, or separate to those established could be presented in some form (thesis, presentation, etc.). Much like opinion pieces, the student&#8217;s position should be judged on content and comprehensiveness rather than what is accepted to be truth.</p>
<p>Inclusiveness, I will take to mean for instance, the variation of religions wherein any one religion has their own differing interpretations. This is again the responsibility of the student to establish theirs and their grades would be on merit of their content. The varied belief systems for example Sunday verses Saturday worshipers of the same religion could be addressed in debate form. Determining all variations that exists will have to be subjective but I think there is room in the world for being subjective &#8211; to a degree.</p>
<p>Accuracy can be determined by involving as many &#8220;stakeholders&#8221; so to speak, ministers of the religions, consulting the general population etc. The task would be huge but the reward would be worth it as we build a more perceptive, faithful and tolerant nation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should All Religions Be Taught In Schools? by positivelyinclined</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 19:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic concerns Bruce. Getting something like this to take place is a daunting task honestly. There should be little opposition from the government in countries where there is said to be no separation between church and state. After all, the objective is to raise a nation of &quot;genuine&quot; believers (whatever the religion is) verses a nation that goes through the motions and fear hearing an ideology that would make them question their own. 


*Refer to my next comment for additional thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic concerns Bruce. Getting something like this to take place is a daunting task honestly. There should be little opposition from the government in countries where there is said to be no separation between church and state. After all, the objective is to raise a nation of &#8220;genuine&#8221; believers (whatever the religion is) verses a nation that goes through the motions and fear hearing an ideology that would make them question their own. </p>
<p>*Refer to my next comment for additional thoughts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should All Religions Be Taught In Schools? by Bruce</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 16:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My opinion is that if offered, this course should be optional. I would be concerned that much depth, inclusiveness, or accuracy of the many worldwide religions can be time consuming, and somewhat biased. It&#039;s a good thought, but would require lots of planning, and &#039;selecting&#039; what religions to teach about.  Let&#039;s hear what you think. . . </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My opinion is that if offered, this course should be optional. I would be concerned that much depth, inclusiveness, or accuracy of the many worldwide religions can be time consuming, and somewhat biased. It&#8217;s a good thought, but would require lots of planning, and &#8216;selecting&#8217; what religions to teach about.  Let&#8217;s hear what you think. . . </p>
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		<title>Comment on Mr. Positively Inclined on Lessons From His Mother by Bruce. . .</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 17:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great tribute to mom. . . maintain fous. . God bless</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great tribute to mom. . . maintain fous. . God bless</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 15:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You made me smile...and shed a tear...all at once. &quot;Sparingly&quot;, i&#039;ll remember that ;) </description>
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		<title>Comment on What Not To Do If Your Son Wants A Pink Pony! by Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 19:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We like being forced to do things that have little to no benefit to us individually or collectively. Where gender roles are concerned we have set up boundaries which I agree are quite arbitrary. While women fight for equal rights and a level playing field particularly in the corporate world, men fight for their right to serve in whatever profession they choose since some are traditionally considered feminine. The greatest hindrance to our progression away from these gender roles is the pretense of it all. 

Eg: Many females use gender as a tool to further their agenda&#039;s suggesting their nurturing, multitasking abilities and ability to stretch a dollar - in what is far too often a single parent home - qualifies them as the best candidates to run a corporation or a country. Similarly, executive positions and political posts are dominated by males because of they are perceived to be less sensitive and more competent than women which is a particularly useful argument when voters consider the world&#039;s crime situation.

Truth be told, in many of the classes I was in throughout the years, the top 10 students were predominantly females which attests to their competence. At the same time, there are many males that are a bit too sensitive (or &quot;touchy&quot; as some say). The problem is perception. Men supposedly aren&#039;t to show emotion so they can&#039;t possibly be too sensitive and men are the leaders in the classroom and the home so they are more than competent… Both are arguably incorrect and so the cycle continues irrespective of the evidence. Men and Women need to collectively and &quot;consistently&quot; decide to abandon these gender roles if equality and individuality are to prevail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We like being forced to do things that have little to no benefit to us individually or collectively. Where gender roles are concerned we have set up boundaries which I agree are quite arbitrary. While women fight for equal rights and a level playing field particularly in the corporate world, men fight for their right to serve in whatever profession they choose since some are traditionally considered feminine. The greatest hindrance to our progression away from these gender roles is the pretense of it all. </p>
<p>Eg: Many females use gender as a tool to further their agenda&#8217;s suggesting their nurturing, multitasking abilities and ability to stretch a dollar &#8211; in what is far too often a single parent home &#8211; qualifies them as the best candidates to run a corporation or a country. Similarly, executive positions and political posts are dominated by males because of they are perceived to be less sensitive and more competent than women which is a particularly useful argument when voters consider the world&#8217;s crime situation.</p>
<p>Truth be told, in many of the classes I was in throughout the years, the top 10 students were predominantly females which attests to their competence. At the same time, there are many males that are a bit too sensitive (or &#8220;touchy&#8221; as some say). The problem is perception. Men supposedly aren&#8217;t to show emotion so they can&#8217;t possibly be too sensitive and men are the leaders in the classroom and the home so they are more than competent… Both are arguably incorrect and so the cycle continues irrespective of the evidence. Men and Women need to collectively and &#8220;consistently&#8221; decide to abandon these gender roles if equality and individuality are to prevail.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Terrelah Whydoihavetosaythis B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 17:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I often wonder what’s the best way to go about reinforcing gender roles in situations such as this one.&quot;

do gender roles need to be enforced? it is observed that gender roles differ and change over space and time. in fact, the example given of pink and blue colours being assigned to a specific gender is an example of a total reversal of gender roles. &quot;“The generally accepted rule is pink for the boys, and blue for the girls. The  reason is that pink, being a more decided and stronger color, is more suitable  for the boy, while blue, which is more delicate and dainty, is prettier for the  girl.” - June, 1918. Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/When-Did-Girls-Start-Wearing-Pink.html
gender-specific coloured clothing is a cultural phenomenon of our modern Western society. like the vast majority of cultural gender norms, it is 100% arbitrary.

&quot;I can appreciate the stance their father took because he didn’t think that his son should be interested in purchasing girl games – as the son put it frankly – after all he is a boy.&quot;

as u rightly noted this type of rigid attitude towards gender identity is highly, highly problematic resulting in the many challenges that we&#039;re experiencing in our patriarchal (Western) society that condones violence and aggression in men and restricts educational and economic opportunities for women based on the notion that they should generally be submissive to men. what is the benefit in extending this type of thinking?

&quot;The boy, though young, should already know the difference between wrong and right.&quot;

can it truly be said that we as a society do?

&quot;Do you believe the father&#039;s concern was well founded granted the son said quite frankly that he wanted a girl game? Would you have bought him that game thinking nothing of it or would you have given your son a mini lecture on his wrong idea of what is for a girl and what is for a boy while ensuring that he understand&#039;s - where sexuality is concerned - what is and isn&#039;t off limits.&quot;

to answer your question. no, the father&#039;s concern was not well founded in the slightest. there&#039;s a specturm of gender preferences and behaviours. it is simply not the case of two genders fitting all no matter how much we threaten, cajole or abuse. secondly, yes, i would buy the game thinking nothing of it. the preference is harmless, why should i be bothered? whether or not my son likes pink should have no bearing on my love for him, further it has no bearing whatsoever on whether or not he is a good person. lastly, no, there&#039;s no need for any mini lecture. regarding gender roles, all ideas have the same value imho. and the only thing &quot;off limits&quot; when it comes to sexual behaviour is what is currently on the law books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I often wonder what’s the best way to go about reinforcing gender roles in situations such as this one.&#8221;</p>
<p>do gender roles need to be enforced? it is observed that gender roles differ and change over space and time. in fact, the example given of pink and blue colours being assigned to a specific gender is an example of a total reversal of gender roles. &#8221;“The generally accepted rule is pink for the boys, and blue for the girls. The  reason is that pink, being a more decided and stronger color, is more suitable  for the boy, while blue, which is more delicate and dainty, is prettier for the  girl.” &#8211; June, 1918. Read more: <a href="http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/When-Did-Girls-Start-Wearing-Pink.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/When-Did-Girls-Start-Wearing-Pink.html</a><br />
gender-specific coloured clothing is a cultural phenomenon of our modern Western society. like the vast majority of cultural gender norms, it is 100% arbitrary.</p>
<p>&#8220;I can appreciate the stance their father took because he didn’t think that his son should be interested in purchasing girl games – as the son put it frankly – after all he is a boy.&#8221;</p>
<p>as u rightly noted this type of rigid attitude towards gender identity is highly, highly problematic resulting in the many challenges that we&#8217;re experiencing in our patriarchal (Western) society that condones violence and aggression in men and restricts educational and economic opportunities for women based on the notion that they should generally be submissive to men. what is the benefit in extending this type of thinking?</p>
<p>&#8220;The boy, though young, should already know the difference between wrong and right.&#8221;</p>
<p>can it truly be said that we as a society do?</p>
<p>&#8220;Do you believe the father&#8217;s concern was well founded granted the son said quite frankly that he wanted a girl game? Would you have bought him that game thinking nothing of it or would you have given your son a mini lecture on his wrong idea of what is for a girl and what is for a boy while ensuring that he understand&#8217;s &#8211; where sexuality is concerned &#8211; what is and isn&#8217;t off limits.&#8221;</p>
<p>to answer your question. no, the father&#8217;s concern was not well founded in the slightest. there&#8217;s a specturm of gender preferences and behaviours. it is simply not the case of two genders fitting all no matter how much we threaten, cajole or abuse. secondly, yes, i would buy the game thinking nothing of it. the preference is harmless, why should i be bothered? whether or not my son likes pink should have no bearing on my love for him, further it has no bearing whatsoever on whether or not he is a good person. lastly, no, there&#8217;s no need for any mini lecture. regarding gender roles, all ideas have the same value imho. and the only thing &#8220;off limits&#8221; when it comes to sexual behaviour is what is currently on the law books.</p>
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